In Case You Haven't Voted Yet.......

I don't need to rewrite all of this info. It's easier for you to follow the link:

Barack Obama on Marriage, and children

A Summary, from David Crowe:

"In addition to the above moral considerations, Barack Obama's lack of any credible executive experience, his associations with the unrepentant American terrorist and socialist Bill Ayers; anti Israel, pro Palestine Liberation Organization Columbia professor Rashid Khalidi; highly questionable relationship with convicted felon Tony Rezko; his unmistakable socialist views; his naïveté in foreign affairs/policy; his misguided economic agenda; his extreme liberal voting record in the U. S. Senate, and his lack of truthfulness and transparency about all these relationships-including his 20 year relationship with 'Reverend' Jeremiah Wright and Muslim leader Louis Farrakhan-disqualify him as a person the American people can trust for the highest office of the land.

Further, Barack Obama, if elected, will nominate - and the democrat majority in the Senate will approve - liberal judges to the U.S. Supreme Court who will in all likelihood continue the killing of the innocent, favor international law over the Constitution, and legislate a "militant secular-paganism" world view from the bench.

Electing Barack Obama President of the United States will be the greatest mistake in our history and is in fact the greatest threat in our lifetime to the Gospel of Jesus Christ, Israel, Christians and Jews around the world, the stability of the family, respect for human life, the economy, the war on radical Islam, our military strength and defense, foreign policy, the U.S. Constitution, and the safety of the nation, than any candidate for the Presidency in American history.

If Christians and Jews VOTE for Barack Obama-or remain silent by failing to VOTE at all-in the face of his preference and open rejection of Biblical morality and authority, we who claim the name of Christ as LORD, yet VOTE in opposition to His Word, will be held accountable by God and our fellow citizens.

As Mordecai said to Esther, "Do not imagine that you in the king's palace can escape any more than all the Jews. For if you remain silent at this time. . . you and your father's house will perish."

The trumpet has sounded, and the warning has gone forth. May you, and I pray, all American Christians and Jews, VOTE and VOTE wisely to the Glory of God. May His Name be exalted and honored once again in post Christian America."

CHANGE!!!

Change. Change from what? From Bush? From Politics?

Don't let Sen. Obama fool you. He's a politician. He hasn't been a U. S. Senator long enough to know anything, let alone how to "Change" the country's corrupted political system. And he won his Senate seat by default, not by vote.

He hobnobbed with radicals and domestic terrorists, but now downplays those relationships, knowing they could affect his presidential dreams.

He is protected by the mainstream media, and when his activities or past are questioned, the race card is played, even though he had a white mother. I hate playing skin color games, it's just wrong. I have nothing against this man, I just do not agree with his politics, and am amazed at how he has essentially come from obscurity, and jumped into the Presidential race.

I'm astonished at how he has had these questionable associations, and yet everyone looks past them, as if they were schoolyard acquaintances, left behind at graduation. Are they? Or will they all come back into play once he's elected President?

So many tried to point out President Bush's ties to Yale's Skull and Bones Society, yet it went no where. Nobody seemed to care. Like now, with Obama and his questionable affiliations.

And then there's the folks that are making the claim that Barack Obama is the Anti-Christ. Really? You have to look at the descriptions of the anti-Christ given in the Bible, and then compare them to what is already known about Obama. I would have to say that the scriptures would describe a number of people around the world today.

One of those descriptions, Daniel 11:37, says "He will have no respect for the gods of his ancestors..." (The Message Bible). Well, Obama did attend a church, and speaks of Jesus, and God. If, as some say, he practices Islam, then he 'respects' the god of Islam. This would take him out of the running for anti-Christ, in my mind.

But we'll see what the future brings.



Audio montage: Barack Obama, and a clip from the classic movie: The Princess Bride

Rehashing the Political past

Are we seeing a new political exchange today than what happened in the past? Maybe not. Check these out:

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1952
In this TV ad by Democratic presidential candidate Adlai Stevenson, the question is asked who will be making decisions in the White House, Republican candidates Dwight D. Eisenhower or Bob Taft. Why make this ad? Some feared that Eisenhower didn't have the political experience to be president."

Present: "Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, who will announce Saturday that he's running for the Democratic presidential nomination, says the brevity of his political résumé is his "greatest strength." USA Today, Feb. 9, 2007

Present: "Presidential scholars say she (Sarah Palin) appears to be the least experienced, least credentialed person to join a major-party ticket in the modern era."

"In another TV ad, a narrator reminds the 'man on the street' that while Republicans may talk about fairness, it is the Democrats who have produced programs that benefit the working class. The ad focuses on the benefits of the Social Security program. The Social Security program was a New Deal legislations that was signed into law by another former Democrat, Franklin D. Roosevelt. Why run this ad? Frankin D. Roosevelt was still a hero to most Americans. This ad reminded the public that Adlai Stevenson was a Roosevelt Democrat."

Present: "Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) accused Republicans under President Bush of economic mismanagement and favoring the rich here on Monday as she outlined a Democratic campaign agenda of tax breaks and incentives designed to make the costs of health care, college and retirement more affordable for millions of Americans." Washington Post, 7/26/2007

Present: "Senator Barack Obama proposed a plan on Tuesday to provide at least $80 billion a year in tax cuts to middle-class workers, homeowners and retirees, saying if he was elected president he would “end the preferential treatment that’s built into our tax code.” NYT 9/28/2007

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1964
Republican candidate Barry Goldwater, speaking in Spanish, urges Hispanics to join the reenergized Republican Party. Why run this ad? Being the Senator from Arizona, Goldwater understood the importance of the Hispanic vote.

Present: "After showing he can win white votes in Iowa and New Hampshire, and solidifying his standing with African-American voters, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama is setting out to prove Tuesday that he can win Latino votes and break Sen. Hillary Clinton’s long-standing alliance with Hispanics." Politico, 2/5/2008

Present: "Sen. John McCain said Monday the tenor of the immigration debate has hurt the way Hispanic voters view the Republican Party. Republican strategists have said McCain has to do well with Hispanic voters to win in November. When President Bush was re-elected in 2004, he received 44 percent of the Hispanic vote, but that was before the divisive political debate erupted over illegal immigration." CNNPolitics, 5/5/2008

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1968
With quick-cutting video and horrific music this ad links, without using words, Democratic candidate Hubert Humphrey to the horrors of the Vietnam War and the violence in US streets. Humphrey stands smiling over the Democratic convention and then there is war dead. Why run this ad? There were problems inside and outside the 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago. Anti-Vietnam War protesters clashed with police outside and there were disruptons inside.

Present: "Republican presidential candidate John McCain defended his belief that U.S. troops will need to stay in Iraq for decades Monday but said the unpopular war will soon end "for all intents and purposes." CNNPolitics, 2/26/2008.

Present: "Obama calls Iraq “the most important foreign-policy decision in a generation.” By the word “decision,” presumably, he means to refer at once to President Bush’s decision to invade Iraq, Congress’s decision to authorize that policy, and his own early decision to oppose any such action." Commentary Magazine, 4/2008

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1976
Independents and Democrats are jumping on republican candidate Gerald Ford's bandwagon.

Present: "John McCain's 6 percentage-point bounce in voter support spanning the Republican National Convention is largely explained by political independents shifting to him in fairly big numbers, from 40% pre-convention to 52% post-convention in Gallup Poll Daily tracking. By contrast, Democrats' support for McCain rose 5 percentage points over the GOP convention period, from 9% to 14%, while Republicans' already-high support stayed about the same." Gallup, 9/9/2008

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1984
"Reagan's policies are decidedly unfair to workers. Democratic candidate Walter Mondale's VP, Geraldine Ferraro, is featured in this ad. Ferraro was the first female on a presidential ticket. Why run this ad? Mondale wanted blue collar workers to return to the Democratic Party. Reagan had been able to gain support within this group in 1980."

The first female on a Presidential ticket? Maybe not...
"List of female United States presidential and vice-presidential candidates"

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1988
"Jimmy has good grades but is worried about paying for college. Michael Dukakis has a plan to get Jimmy to college."

Present: "Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Barack Obama (D-Ill.) have recently presented their plans for improving the higher education system, covering issues like the price of college tuition and tax credits." The Triangle, 6/27/08

(Video of a man laughing) "This man cannot stop laughing. He is so happy that the George Bush adminstration keeps bailing him out despite his bad business decisions. Why run this ad? Dukakis wanted to present the Republican Party as the protectors of the wealthy."

Present: "Washington can act with breathtaking urgency when the right people want something done. In this case, the people are Wall Street's titans, who are scared witless at the prospect of their historic implosion. Congress quickly agreed to enact a gargantuan bailout, with more to come, to calm the anxieties and halt the deflation of Wall Street giants. Put aside partisan bickering, no time for hearings, no need to think through the deeper implications. We haven't seen "bipartisan cooperation" like this since Washington decided to invade Iraq." The Nation, 7/30/2008

"The vice president is just a heartbeat away from being the president. Even though the office is often not a position of power, it is if something happens to the president. Bush chose Dan Quayle, a young senator from Indiana and the Democrats pounced. Why run this ad? Many were alarmed that Bush chose Quayle as his vice presidential nominee."

Present: "If John McCain wins this woman will be one 72-year-old's heartbeat away from being President of the United States." Huffington Post, 9/26/2008

Celebrities, Huh! Who do they think they are?

Go to Insightanalytical for this post. No need for me to repeat it here.....I can only say Ditto!

Louisiana's new Science Education Act, July 2008

"Digest: Provides that proposed law shall be known as the "Louisiana Science Education Act."

Proposed law requires BESE, upon request of a local school board, to allow and assist teachers, principals, and other school administrators to create and foster an environment within public elementary and secondary schools that promotes critical thinking skills, logical analysis, and open and objective discussion of scientific theories being studied including evolution, the origins of life, global warming, and human cloning.

Provides that such assistance shall include support and guidance for teachers regarding effective ways to help students understand, analyze, critique, and objectively review such scientific theories being studied.

Provides that a teacher shall teach material presented in the standard textbook supplied by the school system and thereafter may use textbooks and other instructional materials to help students understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner, as permitted by the local school board.

Provides that proposed law shall not be construed to promote any religious doctrine, promote discrimination for or against a particular set of religious beliefs, or promote discrimination for or against religion or nonreligion.

Requires BESE and local school boards to promulgate rules and regulations necessary to implement this Act prior to the beginning of the 2008-2009 school year."
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It is a shame that the government should have to pass an Act in order to require this kind of activity to be allowed. It's something that happens in laboratories, colleges, and businesses everyday.

When Einstein applied his Theory of Relativity to the structure of the universe, he found that it predicted either an expanding or contracting universe--something entirely incompatible with the prevailing notion of a static universe at the time. Later Einstein added a term called the "cosmological constant" to his equations so they would make his calculations consistent with a static universe.

He changed his Theory to fit the prevailing scientific thought of his day! A Scientist by the name of Edwin Hubble decided to "understand, analyze, critique, and objectively review" the structure of the universe, and found that it was not static! In 1929, Einstein admitted his mistake.

How many Edwin Hubbles are sitting in classrooms today, that will be encouraged by this Act to understand, analyze, critique, and objectively review, the knowledge they are being presented with in the classroom? Or how many will find a way to alter the information to fit what they are being taught based on the prevailing scientific beliefs?

Unfortunately, there are those who are threatened by this Act. They don't want schoolchildren thinking for themselves, questioning what they are being taught. They want to be able to shove whatever they want into the minds of our kids.

Who are these people?

-The American Association for the Advancement of Science. AAAS CEO Alan Leshner warned that the bill would "unleash an assault against scientific integrity, leaving students confused about science and unprepared to excel in a modern workforce."
-The ACLU says it will be keeping a close eye on a bill called the Louisiana Science Education Act should it become law.
-The Louisiana Coalition for Science
-Atheist Revolution

What if they were around in 1929 - would they be trying to silence Hubble, or perhaps prevent him from doing his research, or asking his questions? I'm sure there were many scientists who were quite comfortable believing in a static universe, and had their lives shaken by Hubble's results.

Give me the Edwin Hubbles in the classrooms, they're the ones that will make a difference in the world.

Lisa Garza, Food Network is NOT your friend.

From Bob Tuschman's Food Network Blog: "Lisa ...... started out strong: the very cute “mom” side of her emerged and she was down to earth and twinkly. But when Rachael came on strong to move the segment along, Lisa just shut down. Rachael couldn't’t relate to the sophisticated food she created for her Girl Scout."

Huh? What Food Network showed on their site, and what Rachel Ray shows on her site, give completely different views of what happened. Lisa did great, and Rachel Ray seemed to be having a good time too!

After seeing this, and realizing how Food Network duped me into thinking Lisa screwed up, I'm about ready to blacklist their station from my remote. I wasn't rooting for Lisa, as she came across as stuck-up. But I'm beginning to change my mind. Maybe I've been voting for the wrong person! What a dilemma. Maybe I'll start voting for my least favorite, because Food Network doesn't deserve her.

Personally, I think Lisa should take this as an omen, and even if she does win a show on Food Network, she should get out of it, and look elsewhere. Follow in the footsteps of TFNS alum, Nathan Lyon.

Unfortunately, Food Network once again shows me that their attempt at a reality show fails, and I won't tune in next year. The fix is in, and it's even more obvious this year than in the past.

Be more authoritive, less authoritive, but more authoritive. What?

Show Six. Rachel Ray and the Brownies Challenge. Bob Tuschman tells Kelsey she needs to take more authority, but when she does on the Rachel Ray show, he criticizes her.

What's it going to be, Bob? Is this a glimpse on how you run Food Network, too?

Week 1: "Do a show on taro root."
Week 2: "Why did you do a show on taro root? I ought to fire you!"

I wonder how many of your employees are taking Prozac or Valium?

Kelsy got Rachel involved in what was going on, instead of Rachel standing around talking the whole time. Oh, wait. Isn't Rachel Food Network's golden goose?

IMHO, Rachel Ray has been overexposed. I'm getting weary of seeing her, like, everywhere.

I Don't eat that kind of food.......

On the June 15th episode of The Next Food Network Star, Season 3, Martha Stewart wasa special guest. The contestants had to come up with a product of their own, something to sell in a store. Ms. Stewart was the surprise judge.

Kelsey Nixon, a recent graduate of a culinary school, and full of spunk, came up with a sauce that the harried homemaker could pick up, and use to make a meal. Her example was Sloppy Joes.

Martha's comment to the judges was "I don't eat that kind of food....very often."

So, she comes across as snobby, uppity. I thought I'd look into her comments a little more. A quick search on Martha Stewart Living for sloppy joe recipes come up with 18. Yes, eighteen!

It's okay for her to peddle sloppy joe's in her magazine, to her subscribers and followers, but it's beneath her to partake?

Somethings smelly in Martha's kitchen. And it's nice that the Food Network had a convicted felon on their program as a judge. How ironic.

The Next Food Network Star

Okay, so I missed Season 1. But I caught Season 2, and forced myself to watch Season 3, more as a test than anything else. And, I believe my experiment with Season 3 proved my theory about this particular reality show, and maybe all the others - which I try to avoid.

In Season 2, you had a group of talented people vying for their own show on Food Network. The end of this competition had Guy Fieri winning the coveted show, which is not to say he didn't deserve it, because he did. It's the way Food Network stacked the deck that disappointed me. This was one of my favorite stations, a departure from my usuals: Stargate, NCIS, and CSI.

Here's how I saw it - and I hope I can effectively put my thoughts down here. As Food Network whittled away at the contestants, it seemed obvious in each show who wasn't going to make the cut. No surprise there. The final three were Guy Fieri, Nathan Lyon, and Reggie Southerland. It was obvious to me that Guy was the best of the three, and that his real competition for the show was Nathan. Nathan was good, but he wasn't "Guy good." I suspect that Food Network knew this, and wanting Guy to win, they eliminated Nathan. This left Guy having to compete against Reggie, who was good in his own right, but when you pitted him against Guy, the choice was clear, Guy had it hands down.

So, the more I thought about this, the more I questioned how things occurred. I grew disappointed with Food Network as I started to see that something had been pulled on the viewers. Guy's real competition was eliminated, providing the viewers, who ultimately voted for the winning contestant, with a clear choice - Reggie had no chance against Guy.

To prove - or, hopefully, disprove - my theory, I watched Season 3. The final three were Amy Finley, Joshua "Jag" Garcia, and Rory Schepisi. Personally, I didn't see a real standout in these three as far as their cooking skills, they each seemed to have an area where they stood out. I wasn't until they did a radio show. They were prepped by Food Network "NOT" to say anything derogatory about Food Network, or the other contestants.

Egged on by the two radio hosts, Rory and "Jag" took the bait. Rory talked about some of the other contestants in a gossipy manner, and "Jag" complained that Food Network didn't have any ethnic food shows. Amy didn't fall for it, making her the clear winner of this test.

It was the radio show challenge which convinced me that Amy was clearly the winner. So I was shocked when the judges eliminated her. This left "Jag" and Rory, two contestants who showed little integrity in the Radio show competition. How could Food Network make such a choice? To me, the reflected on Food Network, and their integrity. They were condoning this behavior!

Next came the bombshell that "Jag" embellished his personal information. They made it a part of their show to have him come in and admit his wrongdoing, and withdraw from the competition. at first, I was both relieved that Food Network was finally showing some integrity in this competition. I was also disappointed that a fellow Marine would do this. I don't know if Food Network set this whole thing up for the publicity, or what, at this point, I can only suspect.

So, in an effort to make the competition seem on the up and up, they called back Amy Finley to compete against Rory. When the fans voted, Amy won. To me, this was justification, Amy should have won. It was also another sign that Food Network had again tried to stack the deck so their choice would be the clear winner, the viewers would only have one choice, Food Networks choice. It didn't work out that way because of "Jag's" mistake, and in the end, I believe, the viewers really did get to choose.

In science, experiments are continually repeated so the results are constantly verified. And it's in this vein that I'll again tune in to watch "The Next Food Network Star: Season 4". I hope that Food Network runs a non-interventional competition this season. Maybe they'll restore my faith in the network, because my viewership has declined as a result of my perception of their integrity. I don't consider Food Network as entertainment, but educational and informative. Without integrity, they might as well have Beavis and Butthead doing a cooking show.

So you think you're stuck with three losers for President?

Think again.
Check out this list of who's thrown in their hat for the 2008 Presidential Elections!

And ask yourself, why hasn't the media covered any of them? Why only these three goobers; Obama, Clinton, and McCain?

Thoughts on Politics

For Politicians:

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. "

"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. "

For the 2008 Presidential hopefuls:

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries."

"There is no such thing as a good tax."

.......From the pen of Winston Churchill.

Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton

Three things, mainly observations on what others are saying.

1. He's black.
2. She's a woman.
3. They're both running for President of the US.

Geraldine Ferraro recently commented; "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position, and if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept." She's wrong, of course.

In 2004, a black man ran for President. He is a conservative. Yet, Alan Keyes did not see the same type of hype that Barack Obama, a man with mixed ethnicity, is getting today. People claim Barack Obama is a black man, yet he is a man who's parents come from two different countries, and who also happened to have different skin colors. His father was a black man from Kenya. His mother, a white woman from the US. People are making him choose a side, as it were.

In 2000, another woman ran for the Presidency of the US. She also did not receive the notoriety that Hillary Clinton is getting today, as a woman candidate. She also is a conservative, and her name is Elizabeth Dole.

A common thread can be seen here. Both Alan Keyes and Elizabeth Dole have something in common with the 2008 presidential candidates; skin color and gender. Yet neither experienced the same support Barack and Hillary are seeing today. Can it be that their political attitude, conservatism, was against them? What if Barack or Hillary were conservatives, would they enjoy the same popularity that they do as liberals?

I doubt it. People like free things, and these two are promising lots of free stuff, like healthcare. But it doesn't really matter. With Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John McCain coming out as the front runners in this years race, I can only say that in my opinion, there are three liberals running for President. All want to raise taxes, and increase government control.

Alan Keyes has announced his bid for the Presidency in 2008, but little has been heard of this. And Ron Paul, another conservative, has little chance of winning. Neither of this backrunners are promising free stuff, but they are talking about making changes that would be beneficial to this country, and everyone in it.

God help us all.

Helping the Associated Press (AP)

So, I came across the news story by the Associated Press, and found that it was uncommonly accurate in it's wording.

I realized that somehow this must have slipped past the editors, but that the reporter has by now been fired, once the error was discovered. So to help the AP out, I decided to rewrite the article in a manner that was more fitting to their politically correctness. I know this is how they really wanted the article to be broadcast.......

"BALTIMORE, Md. (AP) — Soon to be Ex-President Bush on Tuesday referred to his former conflicts with substance abuse as an "addiction," a blunt characterization of his dysfunctional adult days before self-realization helped him redefine himself.

"Addiction is difficult to overcome," Soon to be Ex-President Bush said in speaking at a charity based recovery center that aids victims of dysfunctional homes in re-training and other needs.

"As you might remember, I experienced substance abuse at one time in my life," Soon to be Ex-President Bush said. "I understand charity based recovery programs. I understand that sometimes you can find the inspiration from other sources to solve a dependence problem."

Increasingly, Soon to be Ex-President Bush has reflected in candid terms about his days of substance abuse. Last month, he told some young recovering substance abuse victims to stick with their resistance to harmful substances and cited his own experiences with substance abuse years ago. He said then that "substance abuse competes for your affection ... you fall in love with the harmful substance."

Soon to be Ex-President Bush, 61, decided to quit his substance abuse after an unrestrained night in 1986 celebrating his 40th birthday. He went on to once again attain election and re-election as Texas governor before illegally taking the White House.

The Soon to be Ex-President spoke Tuesday at a charity based recovery center, which helps victims of dysfunctional homelives get their lives in order and join society. The stop came as Soon to be Ex-President Bush sought to keep some attention on his charity based programs, one of the themes from his final State of the Union address on Monday night."

And, here's the article as it was sneaked past the AP editors.....

"BALTIMORE, Md. (AP) — President Bush on Tuesday referred to his former struggles with alcohol as an "addiction," a blunt characterization of his less disciplined adult days before a reliance on faith help him turn his life around.

"Addiction is hard to overcome," Bush said in speaking at a faith-based center that helps former prisoners get job training and other help.

"As you might remember, I drank too much at one time in my life," Bush said. "I understand faith-based programs. I understand that sometimes you can find the inspiration from a higher power to solve an addiction problem."

Increasingly, Bush has reflected in candid terms about his days of drinking. Last month, he told some young recovering addicts to stick with their fight against drugs and cited his own experiences with alcohol years ago. He said then that "addiction competes for your affection ... you fall in love with alcohol."

Bush, 61, decided to quit drinking alcohol after a boozy night in 1986 celebrating his 40th birthday. He went on to win election and re-election as Texas governor before bidding for the White House.

The president spoke Tuesday at the Jericho Program, which helps former prisoners get their lives in order and contribute to society. The stop came as Bush sought to keep some attention on his faith-based programs, one of the themes from his final State of the Union address on Monday night."

Now, I prefer the upfront, factually correct and truthful article, but I know that the editors at the AP believe it's their place in the media to make everything politically correct, and easy to understand for the mindless twits that believe everything they read, so I figured I'd help them out.

"Undocumented"

Although in this day and age, a person can use any word in any way they want, and mean something completely different that the word they used, let's take a look at the meaning of a few of these types of words in use today:

Undocumented: "Not having the needed documents, as for permission to live or work in a foreign country."

Immigrant: "A person who leaves one country to settle permanently in another."

Resident: "One who resides in a particular place permanently or for an extended period"

Alien: "Owing political allegiance to another country or government; foreign"

Illegal: "Prohibited by law"

Reform: "To abolish abuse or malpractice in"

Now, let's look at a recent AP news article, on stricter drivers licenses in the state of Oregon, and some comments that were made by people in the article, along with some comments;

"Representatives ranging from farm worker advocates to the Oregon chapter of the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps were at the Oregon Capitol Friday to support or oppose stiffer rules for driver's licenses for undocumented residents."

-Now, this is the AP's words, "undocumented residents." Don't you think someone who's profession is writing would know the differences in words, and proper word usage? So, it's obvious that the AP is being politically correct, rather than factual here.

"The issue in Oregon is as contentious as immigration itself."

-When did immigration become contentious? Again, the AP is wordsmithing this article to provoke a specific emotion. Nobody is against LEGAL immigration, only ILLEGAL immigration. And everybody should be against this, because it's an ILLEGAL activity!

"Groups opposing illegal immigration say anything less than a proof-of-legal-presence standard invites terrorists and drug traffickers."

-Only groups? Shouldn't every citizen of this country oppose illegal immigration?

"In addition, Oregon continues to issue eight-year driver's licenses to people with six-month visas, and that's unconscionable," said Jim Ludwick, the president of Oregonians for Immigration Reform, which opposes illegal immigration. "Oregon is a mecca and a magnet for ID fraud and illegal immigration."

-Again, one of those groups that oppose illegal immigration.

"But Hispanic activists migrant worker supporters say such claims are a new low in anti-immigrant lobbying."

-No we're not talking about "anti-immigration" here, we're talking about anti-illegal immigration! Get it right, and stop trying to confuse people..

"The fact is, undocumented Latino workers pay $134 million to $187 million in income taxes annually," said Victoria Lewis, a member of the Oregon Coalition for Public Safety. "In Oregon, they put between $1.8 billion to $2.5 billion into the economy as consumers of products and services."

- If these workers are "undocumented," then how do they pay taxes? How does Ms. Lewis know the amount of taxes that are being paid by these folks, since they lack the legal paperwork to be here in the first place? This is a suspicious "fact" that she quotes. And if she is a member of the Oregon Coalition for Public Safety, shouldn't she be concerned about the safety of Oregonians, instead of non-Oregonians who who are here illegally?

Article Source: KATU News site